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| Zmic | Date: Sunday, 2013/May/19, 0:16 AM | Message # 1 |
 Saturday, October 26th, 2013
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| Hey all,
If anyone has questions about strategy that was used against them in games, or any strategy that you want to share, or ask about, go ahead and post here and someone will help you out. = D
I'll start off with one,
Why would terran have ghosts in a early game against zerg??????
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| KhalDanis | Date: Sunday, 2013/May/19, 1:56 AM | Message # 2 |
 Saturday, February 7th, 2015
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| My PvZ Strategy 
FFE into 2x Stargate VR/Chargelot into Templar + 3rd base, and fleet beacon tech lategame on 4+ bases:
Quote FFE as usual(13 Forge > 17 Nexus > 17 Gate > 17 cannon > 17 pylon > double gas).
check for 3rd, if no 3rd, then u abandon the build and go more aggressive on 2 bases (and do usual 2 base Zerg defense with 3 more cannons and 2 more sentries chronoed).
Get 3rd and 4th gas early, and at 100% core, build stargate, warpgate, MS Core, Stalker, then 2nd SG.
You build 1st VR then 2nd unit is Oracle, then pure VRs from there. After that you get a TC and 8 gates, and use Oracle to scout.
Get +1 ground and +1 air as money is available.
Once on 8 VRs, zealot warpins and get 3rd up + cannons, and once 3rd is secure, get templar tech, and push with proxy pylons once you have storm and archons, and on 3 base gas, you can now transition to Tempests/Archon/Storm/VR and you're replacing Zealots with more templar/tempest.
I've also started using a late Robo after Fleet Beacon purely for Warp-prism harass, and I guess if there is gas, DT shrine would be good too.
Usually, with your push you can take a 4th, then fall back to it.
Now, you shall feel the power of the Protoss...
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| Faded | Date: Sunday, 2013/May/19, 6:35 PM | Message # 3 |
 Tuesday, February 12th, 2015
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| My favorite strategy is F10 N as soon as the game starts.
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| KhalDanis | Date: Monday, 2013/May/20, 2:11 AM | Message # 4 |
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| Quote (Faded) My favorite strategy is F10 N as soon as the game starts.
LOL! Faded, u so chicken ♥
You should jump on BNET more often man 
PS:
I think I will make a video about my PvT build, and give you my thoughts on it.
Now, you shall feel the power of the Protoss...
Message edited by Xecutor - Monday, 2013/May/20, 2:12 AM |
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| CrunChy | Date: Friday, 2013/May/24, 1:51 AM | Message # 5 |
 Saturday, July 10th, 2010
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| Hello!
You all will be pleased to know that there is now an official Strategy Discussion Section on our Clan forums! So please post and encourage all your Clan mates to post!
Thank you!
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| tenshender | Date: Friday, 2013/May/24, 1:51 AM | Message # 6 |
 Thursday, January 24th, 2014
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| There is a clear help/support thread for the website/clan but not for those of us seeking to improve our play. I will post links to replays here and I would enjoy criticism/discussion, and invite others to do the same. If you decide to reply please keep all criticism constructive. When posting a replay please give a brief summary and label it as well.
I find that Liquipedia is an excellent source of build information as well as basic strategy for beginners.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Main_Page
This is a 1v1 ZvZ replay on the ladder(silver league)
http://www.mediafire.com/?3a4hl2edvn0kwth
I had been playing a lot of ZvP lately as well as watching WCS EU streams and I decided that a fast expand wall off could work well in ZvZ when my opponent was not rushing Mutalisks.
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MMR ( hidden match ranking system) decided that it would like me ( a silver player) to go up against a platinum player on the LADDER. It is a ZvP match and I decided to push early, and committed to an All-in when I realized my opponent did not scout the rocks near his natural, and also was in a Stargate opening when I saw Pheonixes. I immediately set spore crawlers at my base while DPSing the rocks and he rage-quit without a "GG" momentarily. I failed to scout his proxy pylon but that was moot with my timing. I have learned the hard way many times to scout effectively, though I still have trouble. Even if I hadn't decided to go for the rocks his wall was very weak (1 pylon) and I would have busted easily. This demonstrates the strategy difference between Platinum and silver leagues. (mostly rush and aggression while expanding Vs His nexus first into Stargate play. Had my push failed I would have droned hard but his economy would have been insurmountable. Scouting is very important and This platinum player learned it very quickly!!!
1v1 ZvP ladder :scouting is key
http://www.mediafire.com/?0xjnex2fdobroq9Added (2013/May/18, 1:02 PM)
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I've been following Blade ( NA Grandmaster KR master) recently trying to get my 1v1 chops up, If you play zerg his play-style may be for you. My WebPage
No one cared who I was until I took the helm.
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Message edited by tenshender - Thursday, 2013/May/09, 6:38 PM |
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| KhalDanis | Date: Friday, 2013/May/24, 1:51 AM | Message # 7 |
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| Excellent thread 
I will provide feedback soon.
Now, you shall feel the power of the Protoss...
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| Hooper | Date: Friday, 2013/May/24, 1:51 AM | Message # 8 |
 Wednesday, May 22nd, 2013
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| Love this thread! I'll utilize this post as my replay thread as well. What's the easiest way to upload replays here, utilizing something like drop box or just loading them straight into the thread? Looks like you use media fire, is that pretty 'user friendly'?
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| tenshender | Date: Friday, 2013/May/24, 1:51 AM | Message # 9 |
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Thursday, January 24th, 2014
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| I Find Mediafire to be very friendly, I know some people have had trouble uploading replays directly to the site in the past but I believe that issue has been resolved.
No one cared who I was until I took the helm.
Commander of the CFS-Excalibur
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| KhalDanis | Date: Friday, 2013/May/24, 1:51 AM | Message # 10 |
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Saturday, February 7th, 2015
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| There might be a more specialized replay upload site:
http://www.ggtracker.com/
And if you just want to share a replay quickly without needing to keep track , you can use:
http://drop.sc/
Now, you shall feel the power of the Protoss...
Message edited by Xecutor - Tuesday, 2013/May/21, 6:43 AM |
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| tenshender | Date: Friday, 2013/May/24, 1:52 AM | Message # 11 |
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Thursday, January 24th, 2014
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| Outdated strategy ?
Above is a zerg strategy that I am very interested in but am unable to try at the moment due to time constraints. It is a 1base Swarm host rush with ling/ spine/ baneling support and it seems very volatile ZvZ or vs anyone who doesn't scout constantly. As always I would appreciate feedback. : )Added (2013/May/22, 10:56 AM)
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In short Oxy goes 2base stargate 2robo with 7-8 warp gates. I didn't scout efficiently since I knew beforehand he was going Collosus Void ray. This game came down to my bad mechanics, Not denying his third, not being aggressive early enough. Not saturating all my bases with gas, and general tomfoolery. Hats off to Oxygen for improving so much. THERE ARE NO HEARTS IN THE STREAM Xecutor! This match is also on Xecutor's Stream XecutorAdun
ZvP 1v1 Clan Confed Tenshender Vs Oxygen(Coached by Xecutor)
Le Me Getting Stomped
No one cared who I was until I took the helm.
Commander of the CFS-Excalibur
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| KhalDanis | Date: Friday, 2013/May/24, 1:52 AM | Message # 12 |
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Saturday, February 7th, 2015
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| Quote (tenshender) ZvP 1v1 Clan Confed Tenshender Vs Oxygen(Coached by Xecutor)
Hey thanks for the shoutout
I just wanted to ask: do you want me to do a play by play as to what you could have done better that game, or is what we already discussed alright?
PS:
1 base SH....kinda iffy. Gets shut down pretty hard by Colossus tech, and Time Warp + FFs are enough to buy enough time for colossus to be rushed out, and then add a stargate after the fact, on 2 bases, and basically ram through it... Just a warning ♥
Now, you shall feel the power of the Protoss...
Message edited by Xecutor - Wednesday, 2013/May/22, 5:07 PM |
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| tenshender | Date: Friday, 2013/May/24, 1:52 AM | Message # 13 |
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Thursday, January 24th, 2014
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| The 1base SH build is all about hiding SH until its too late, haven't been able to try it yet but I'm sure since no one is doing it it can't be too strong. I've only ever see it done ZvZ Added (2013/May/23, 4:21 PM)
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Here are two conflicting replays of ZvT. I played these games one after another consecutively. I am not going to give detailed analysis of these matches because I would like to receive feedback and honest opinions. The first match I over committed then failed at macro/remax, the second match I denied a 2nd after his failed push and Macroed. I would greatly appreciate anyone watching these replays comments.
ZvT 1
ZvT 2
No one cared who I was until I took the helm.
Commander of the CFS-Excalibur
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Message edited by tenshender - Thursday, 2013/May/23, 1:01 AM |
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| ShazamPoof | Date: Friday, 2013/May/24, 1:52 AM | Message # 14 |
 Monday, January 27th, 2014
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| I guess I'll give the only build order I've come up with since StarCraft 2 has come out. Its a ZvZ build that good for working on good zergling and baneling micro.
14 pool (Queen right when pool finishes)
13 gas (right after pool)
Evo chamber at 24-28 gas (I normally hide behind mineral so they are less likely to scout it)
1st 100 gas to +1 melee
2nd 100 gas on zergling speed (This timing should line up that +1 and speed finish at the same time)
Next 50 gas for a banling nest
Try and build drones until your first larvae pop and then all zerglings from there.
After that it becomes slightly free form, i normally try to eventually get +1 carapace (zerglings take 2 hits from banlings) and if you drone up like a mentioned in the line above you will slowly build up minerals to get an expansion up if the game doesn't quite end but I usually put up pressure until I win or lose.
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| CrunChy | Date: Friday, 2013/May/24, 1:52 AM | Message # 15 |
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Saturday, July 10th, 2010
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| Hello!
You all will be pleased to know that there is now an official Strategy Discussion Section on our Clan forums! So please post and encourage all your Clan mates to post!
I have merged all Strategy threads together and moved them to the new "General Strategy" Discussion Forum.
Thank you!
Website Administrator | TeamSpeak Administrator | ConFed Legend
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