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Q&A: Confederation Command Structure
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| Oblivion | Date: Sunday, 2013/December/29, 11:58 AM | Message # 1 |
 Thursday, April 24th, 2014
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| Greetings,
It has come to my attention that the relationship between branches in our clan is blurred. I'd like to dedicate this post to answering any questions you have about the leadership structure. It can be about any branch, any rank, or the JCOS. Please refrain from using specific people and instead focus on the rank itself. Feel free to ask about the scope and power of a branch/rank, the purpose of that rank, or the chain of command the clan itself has. I hope that you all do have questions and that I will be able to answer them effectively.
Cheers,
Confederation Domestic Advisor Oblivion
Formerly Known as A1a3a1(ConFed)
:|: Inducted as a Confederation Legend in 2009 :|:
Commandant :|: Fleet Admiral :|: Domestic Advisor :|: Vice President :|: President
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| TheBigTG | Date: Sunday, 2013/December/29, 12:07 PM | Message # 2 |
 Tuesday, May 12th, 2015
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| I personally feel that the CRA is not as useful as it could be because it has very similar roles with captains so I think we should change one or the other. Like having CRA be in charge of activities and possibly media. More can be discussed.
I was diamond, until I took an arrow to the knee.
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| Jdman | Date: Sunday, 2013/December/29, 3:22 PM | Message # 3 |
 Saturday, December 28th, 2013
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| The reason the CRA is the way it is dates back too the old clan ways. Also from a current membership activity/recruitment rate the CRA is still very much needed. Saying that captains can do it all, is silly. captains should be more concernd with getting current members active, and involved in the clan. I do agree that the CRA should have more too do with the clan then just recruiting, but at the moment that's what we must, and will focus on. Our membership levels may be high on paper. But the truth of the matter is that it's not. I estimate about 20-30 truly active members. So this means that we need to get back to a focus on recruiting. A captains main goal is to meet and play with all other members of the UMC. It just happens that they can also give out cadet tests. This is really, or it was more for the lore and role play of the old clan. It would be silly if captains couldn't test and place new recruits on a ship. It is UMC command and Captains that should be organizing tournemtns and such, as all tournaments usually revolve around UMC members. The CRA can help facilitate these but at the end of the day it should be UMC commands role too run them with the help of vice admirals, captains, and commanders. Now using the CRA too promote the clan with social media, or YouTube this is a good role for the CRA as it is the CRAs job too get out name out there so that people want too join.
Just my two cents
Hail the confederation
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Clan: The Confederation
Rank: President
Branch: High Command
Legend, Ex-Commandant, Ex-Fleet Admiral Ex CPA, Ex CSA, Ex president.
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| Fowler | Date: Sunday, 2013/December/29, 7:18 PM | Message # 4 |
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Saturday, December 28th, 2013
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| *Salutes* Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen of the Confederation,
If I may give my input, I believe it is just like in the military. There are Recruiters(CRA) and there are Drill Instructors(Captains and UMC command). It is the job of said recruiters to persuade people to join and keep them interested while they are waiting to ship to boot camp or in the case of the confederation, get assigned to a ship. It is the recruiters job to organize events at their station that promotes good order, and comradery. It falls on the Drill Instructors to train the individual and test them to see if they are as dedicated as they say. All of this is only for the betterment of the organization. I assure you there is much more detail into both jobs on the side of the Confederation, this is just my idea of a general outlook.
Respectfully,
Drill Sergeant Fowler, CRA.
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| ZZZ | Date: Sunday, 2013/December/29, 8:16 PM | Message # 5 |
 Thursday, March 27th, 2014
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| Technically, what is the difference between an SSA member and a Confederation Security Advisor?
Both of them seem to deal with the overall security of the clan so I don't really see the difference between them.
ZZZ
The Confederation
Admiral
United Military Command
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| Jdman | Date: Monday, 2013/December/30, 1:03 AM | Message # 6 |
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Saturday, December 28th, 2013
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| There is no real difference other then the fact that one is in high command and one isn't. Having a CSA is usefull, because sometimes quick decisions regarding clan security need too be made fast. These types of decisions are meant for high command. Such as banning a person who flagrantly breaks a law, or if someone is found out too be a spy. Or if someone is found out to be a traitor.
Clan: The Confederation
Rank: President
Branch: High Command
Legend, Ex-Commandant, Ex-Fleet Admiral Ex CPA, Ex CSA, Ex president.
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| ShazamPoof | Date: Monday, 2013/December/30, 2:26 AM | Message # 7 |
 Monday, January 27th, 2014
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| I feel like a lot of these roles seem like they overlap due to the fact that the clan was a lot smaller than it once was. One person might be able to do 2 similar jobs with 25 members, but would never able able to do 2 similar jobs with 500 members.
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| Machiavelli | Date: Monday, 2013/December/30, 11:40 AM | Message # 8 |
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Tuesday, September 3rd, 2013
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| Well, Shouldent the SSA be running things quietly in the background while the CSA is the public figure.
Is it not like the Secret Service / NSA combined comapred to the.. whoever leads the department of defense?Added (2013/December/30, 11:40 AM)
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Quote I feel like a lot of these roles seem like they overlap due to the fact that the clan was a lot smaller than it once was. One person might be able to do 2 similar jobs with 25 members, but would never able able to do 2 similar jobs with 500 members.
This is true, but I would like to point out that the clan wasent just bigger back in BW. It was a clan in a different time ran by different people in earlier stages of their lives, with different priorities. Most of us cannot come close to living up to what we were in BW, we are simply old and tired. Having responsibility spread out is not a bad thing, as long as its not the exact same job.
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| ZZZ | Date: Monday, 2013/December/30, 2:00 PM | Message # 9 |
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Thursday, March 27th, 2014
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| The clan also put a lot more emphasis on respect and authority back in Brood War.
Whenever President-SyXx entered channel (even in sc2) EVERYONE acknowledged his presence and awaited his command.
These days...not so much.
In any case, what the branches really need are authoritative figures, leaders to look up to.
We can't have members join a branch and then leave two days later.
Once we get branches filled out, High Command especially, then we'll start getting somewhere.
We're doing a pretty good job with the CRA and the UMC is maxed. The SSA and Keepers though...
We'll see.
ZZZ
The Confederation
Admiral
United Military Command
*Salutes*
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| Oblivion | Date: Monday, 2013/December/30, 5:37 PM | Message # 10 |
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Thursday, April 24th, 2014
Group: Graduate
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| Greetings,
You must remember that ConFed was designed to be more of a role playing clan with it's elaborate rank structure. The SSA was designed to be more of the channel security / making sure no one infiltrates our ranks and tries to destroy us from within. That is somewhat harder nowadays due to the fact that you can't simply keep creating new accounts. Additionally, since we don't have bots / spammers, their job has been reduced to mere channel ops.
As you progress in the ranks, it is designed so that you are "given" more responsibility and input on matters. Additionally, it gives a member some time to prove their loyalty / dedication so that they can't jump right up to JCOS or HC.
The CSA has more of an overall security role. He holds the position as an advisor with the primary department being security. This can relate to security during Open Clan Tournaments, members who double clan, smurf accounts, and can work in conjunction with the CFA on matters dealing with another clan. While the jobs of the CSA / SSA may be similar, but the CSA has more responsibility and can be assigned other duties that pertain to tasks only a High Command member can accomplish. Additionally, the CSA position is required to be filled by someone who has been in the SSA.
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I feel like a lot of these roles seem like they overlap due to the fact that the clan was a lot smaller than it once was. One person might be able to do 2 similar jobs with 25 members, but would never able able to do 2 similar jobs with 500 members.
This is true, but I would like to point out that the clan wasent just bigger back in BW. It was a clan in a different time ran by different people in earlier stages of their lives, with different priorities. Most of us cannot come close to living up to what we were in BW, we are simply old and tired. Having responsibility spread out is not a bad thing, as long as its not the exact same job.
The A~6 is the NSA type section and the SSA is more like the CIA/FBI. The CSA would be like the Director of National Intelligence. This analogy doesn't perfectly line up, but it gives you some familiar terms (hopefully).
This relates to what I said above. The clan is supposed to also have a role playing component, or at least that is how it was designed. Yes, the clan was bigger in the past and yes, there are some positions that are duplicated, but you must take into consideration the structure of leadership within the clan. My duties overlap with the Fleet Admiral's, but I also have more access to the website / larger scope of power (I can issue orders to any branch and also have additional powers). Each rank comes with an increase of responsibility and power, regardless if the duties look similar on the website. Since the reboot, it has been hard to get people into the role playing mindset because I think times have changed, but that is why we have a complex set of ranks.
Hope this helps clarify some things mentioned above.
Cheers,
Confederation Domestic Advisor Oblivion
Formerly Known as A1a3a1(ConFed)
:|: Inducted as a Confederation Legend in 2009 :|:
Commandant :|: Fleet Admiral :|: Domestic Advisor :|: Vice President :|: President
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